About WoW Classic Forever

WoW Classic Forever is a fan-made talent calculator and guide site for World of Warcraft: Forever. This page explains where our facts and talent data come from, how we check them, how sure we are about each kind of fact, and how the site keeps up while Blizzard is still changing the game.

This page describes how the site works and is updated when that changes. Last reviewed: September 26, 2026.

What this site is

WoW Classic Forever has two parts. The talent calculator plans and shares builds for all nine classes, with a talent page per class. The guides collect what Blizzard has shown and said about Forever: the release date and beta, servers and rulesets, dungeons, zones, races, class changes and the Legacy system.

It is an independent fan project, not made, reviewed or endorsed by Blizzard. The calculator runs in your browser and needs no account, and a share link carries the build in the link itself rather than on a server.

Where our facts come from

The sources we use and how each is treated
Source	Examples	How we use it
Blizzard	News posts and panel recaps on the World of Warcraft site, full BlizzCon panel videos, blue posts on the official forums, support articles and the Battle.net shop page	The base of every guide. Written as fact, with Blizzard named as the source.
Game client data	The Classic Era client (build 1.15.9.69722) and Forever’s beta client builds, read through public exports of the client’s data tables such as wago.tools	Classic talents to compare against, and Forever talents from the beta client on, which can change in any build. Anything else found in the files is called datamined and treated as a single source, since the files hold unfinished and cut content.
The BlizzCon 2026 demo	Community transcriptions of demo footage, screenshots, and hands-on reports from players and outlets such as Warcraft Tavern and Icy Veins	The first public look at Forever talents and many class details, and the calculator’s talent source until beta client data replaced it. Other demo facts are marked as seen in the demo, because the beta can change them.
Developer interviews	Blizzard developers interviewed by IGN Nordic, Kotaku, GameSpot, The Sun and Destin, often read through Wowhead’s summaries	Attributed to the developer and the outlet. “No plans for” is written as the current plan, not a promise.
News and fan sites	Wowhead articles and liveblogs, MMO-Champion, Warcraft Tavern, Icy Veins and Warcraft Wiki	Leads. We follow them back to the panel, post or file they report on, and name them when they are the only source.
Players	Reddit, the official forums and other community posts	Written as what players report, never as confirmed.

How we check a fact

Back to the original. When a news story reports what a developer said on a panel, we go to Blizzard’s video or recap of that panel, write from it, and name who said it.
Two sources for anything not official. A fact that doesn’t come from Blizzard needs two independent sources before we write it without naming one. Copies of the same report, and sites repeating each other, count once.
Conflicts stay visible. When sources disagree we show both and list the question as unconfirmed. When Blizzard’s pre-purchase post and its roadmap graphic gave different last days for the beta, the release date page shows both.
Corrections follow the source. When a Kaivax post on Blizzard’s forums corrected Krol’dok Stronghold’s level range after BlizzCon, the dungeons page switched to the corrected range.
Dated copies. We keep a dated copy of each source we read, so a post or page edited later can be compared with what it said before.
Our own words. Guides are written as summaries in our own words, not copied from other sites.

How sure we are, and how a page says it

Every fact in our research notes carries a confidence level, and the level decides the wording on the page. You can tell how solid a fact is from the sentence itself.

Confidence levels and the wording each one gets
Level	What it takes	How the page says it
Official	Blizzard published or said it: a news post, panel, blue post, support article or store page	Stated plainly.
Multiple sources	Two or more independent sources agree (copies of one report count once)	Stated plainly.
Single source	One outlet or one interview, datamined client files, or players’ reports	Attributed or marked, with the source named: “Tim Jones told IGN…”, “reported” or “datamined”.
Seen in the demo	Shown in the BlizzCon 2026 demo build	Marked as from the demo, which the beta can change.
Conflicting	Sources disagree	Both versions with their sources, and the question listed as unconfirmed.

On class pages, every change carries a tag for where it comes from: Blizzard, game data, the BlizzCon demo or player reports. A few words also mean something specific here:

Datamined: found in the game client’s files, not announced. Files hold unfinished and cut content, so a datamined zone, item or battleground may change or never appear.
Reported: one outlet or players say it, and Blizzard hasn’t.
Estimated: a number we worked out instead of reading it from the source (see below).
No plans: what a developer said about the current plan, not a promise for the life of the game.

Where the talent data comes from

Forever’s talents come from a different source at each stage of its release, and the calculator moves to the better source once that source’s data can be checked. The stage it uses today is marked.

Earlier

BlizzCon 2026 demo

Seven community projects transcribed the talent trees from demo footage, and some of them copied each other.
We compared every slot (name, position, max rank and rank 1 numbers), counted copies of one transcription as one vote, and settled conflicts from demo screenshots.
The demo mostly showed rank 1, so higher ranks were estimates.

Now

Beta client, from Sep 17

Talent trees, ranks and tooltip text are read from the game data in the beta client instead of transcriptions.
Where the client data leaves something open, we say so: numbers that depend on the character show a level 60 reference character’s values, and the calculator asks for a prerequisite to be maxed, as in Classic, because the client doesn’t say how many points it needs.
When Blizzard ships a new beta build, the data is rebuilt from it. Talents can still change until launch.
Tim Jones told IGN the team would look at class balance during the beta and make adjustments where necessary.

Later

Live game, from Nov 4

The data is read from the live game client in the same way.
Patches that change talents get a rebuild too.

The talent data was last rebuilt on October 30, 2026; each rebuild and what it changed is listed on the data updates page. Classic talents, for comparison, come from the Classic Era client, build 1.15.9.69722.

What “estimated” means

An estimated value is one we worked out rather than read from the source, and tooltips mark it. In the BlizzCon demo stage that mostly meant higher talent ranks: the footage showed rank 1, so later ranks were projected from rank 1 and community transcriptions, and estimates that couldn’t be right, such as a chance above 100%, were dropped.

Client data carries every rank itself, so since the calculator moved to it, ranks no longer have to be estimated. Anything we still work out ourselves keeps the mark. Tooltips can carry two other marks: values for a level 60 reference character, where the numbers depend on the character, and a rank text kept from the BlizzCon demo, where the client data can’t fill it in.

How the site stays current

A daily source check. Every day we go through Blizzard’s news and blue posts, its YouTube channel, new client builds, Wowhead, Icy Veins, Warcraft Tavern and Reddit for anything new about Forever.
Notes first, then pages. A new or changed fact goes into our research notes with its source and confidence level, then into every page that uses it.
Reviewed dates. Each guide shows its last reviewed date near the top.
Talent rebuilds. The talent data is rebuilt when its source changes, and the data updates page says what changed.

Fan site disclaimer

World of Warcraft and Blizzard Entertainment are trademarks or registered trademarks of Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. Talent and racial names, descriptions, icons and game images are © Blizzard Entertainment, and the official images in our guides are credited to Blizzard.

WoW Classic Forever is not affiliated with or endorsed by Blizzard. Nothing here is official, and Blizzard can change anything before or after launch. When this site and an official Blizzard source disagree, go with Blizzard.

Data and artwork credits

Game art and icons belong to Blizzard Entertainment. Official screenshots and promotional images come from Blizzard’s own news posts, panels and videos, and each one links back to where it was published.
Client art such as loading screens, zone maps and boss icons is taken unchanged from the World of Warcraft: Forever beta client, and the caption names the client build.
Spell, talent and item icons are Blizzard’s icons, loaded from Wowhead’s image server (wow.zamimg.com).
Client data (talents, spells, items, zones, bosses) is read from public exports of the client’s data tables on wago.tools; each data page names the build it read. A record in the client doesn’t tell you what ships, drops or how it’s balanced.
Classic Era item sources on the weapon planners (where a weapon drops, who sells it, which quest gives it) come from cmangos/classic-db, the open-source Classic world database, used under the GPL-3.0 licence.
Missing a credit, or see something wrong? Email support@wowclassicforever.info.

Contact

Questions, corrections or a fact we got wrong: email support@wowclassicforever.info. What the site collects when you visit is in our privacy policy. The site is free and has no paywall; if it helped you, you can buy us a coffee on Ko-fi. Besides tips, the site is supported by affiliate links on its leveling-addon reviews: Zygor vs RestedXP for WoW Forever and the two reviews it links to. Each page says so at the top, we earn a commission if you buy through them, and the commission does not decide what we write.

Questions about this site

Is WoW Classic Forever an official Blizzard site?

No. It is a fan-made site, not affiliated with or endorsed by Blizzard Entertainment. Blizzard’s own news posts and support articles are the final word, and our guides link to them.

Where does the talent calculator get its data?

From the best source available at each stage: community transcriptions of the BlizzCon 2026 demo first, then the game data in the beta client, then the live game after launch. The talent data section marks the stage it uses today.

Are the talents in the calculator final?

No. Blizzard can change talents in any beta build and before launch, and Tim Jones told IGN the team would look at class balance during the beta. Treat builds as planning until launch.

Why do some tooltips have a note after the text?

The note says where that rank’s text comes from when it isn’t read straight from the game data. Numbers that depend on your character are shown for a level 60 reference character, and a rank the client can’t fill in keeps its text from the BlizzCon demo. In the demo stage, tooltips also marked estimated values: What “estimated” means explains them.

What does “datamined” mean?

Found in the game client’s files but not announced by Blizzard. The files can hold unfinished or cut content, so datamined zones, items and battlegrounds can change or never ship.

Why do some sentences name a website or say “players report”?

Because that fact has a single source. We name it so you can judge it yourself, and we don’t present it as confirmed.

How often is the site updated?

Sources are checked every day. A guide changes when one of its facts changes, and its reviewed date moves with it. The talent data is rebuilt when its source changes.

Why does another talent calculator show different talents?

Calculators can be built from different sources: demo transcriptions, one beta build or a later one. Check which stage and build a calculator names. Ours is marked in the talent data section, and every rebuild is listed on the data updates page.

What happens when sources disagree?

We show both versions with their sources and list the question as unconfirmed until Blizzard or the game settles it.

Where do the Classic talents in the comparisons come from?

Straight from the Classic Era client, build 1.15.9.69722. That is how a Forever talent gets flagged as new or changed from Classic.

Does the site store my builds?

No. The calculator runs in your browser without an account, and a share link carries the build in the link itself.

Still unconfirmed

Which talents and numbers will change between beta builds and launch
Whether content found in the client files will ship
How much the live game will differ from the last beta build

Sources

How we choose and check sources